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help: Guide me please

Postby Red_D » Mon Feb 02, 2015 8:37 pm

Hi fellow salt water enthusiasts. I would like to seek the guidance of the gurus since I am new to this hobby. I will also post pictures to update this thread para makita nyo ung progress ng tank ko

Set up:
15g tank
HOB filter
Wavemaker
LED light
LR
LS

May mga maling judgement din ako nagawa gaya ng pagbili ng non-branded salt mix sa carti tapos skimmer na hindi ko na ginagamit kasi gusto ko less clutter ung dT ko. So nung ayaw matunaw ung ibang salt mix nagpalit ako ng NSW then remove the skimmer. I aerated the water for 5 days, put some LR and LS. I am currently on day 2 of cycling.

Questions:
1. May nababasa ako na naglalagay ng patay na hipon to hasten the cycling. mas matagal nga ba talaga pag hindi ginawa un? May iba bang way other than that?
2. Need ba ng light ng LR? if yes, minimun ilang oras need ng ilaw? May nakita akong pink na parang flower sa LR ko, ill post pictures within the next days.
3. Gusto ko maglagay ng mga LPS, pano ko malalaman na pwede na ako maglagay non? un ba dapat ko unahin ilagay o isda?

Yan muna sa ngayon. Update ko na lang tong thread.

Salamat po sa mga sasagot at gagabay

Red
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few images po

salt mix + purified water. after a few days removed it and changed to NSW
kita pa po dyan ung internal skimmer ko na tinanggal ko na kasi mas maganda kung malinis ung DT
no HOB filter yet on this photo
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put in some LR
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current set up, cycling day 2. wavemaker and HOB filter
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ito ung parang flower na sinasabi ko, meron white meron din pink
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Re: help: Guide me please

Postby kalzwin » Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:33 am

Ang sabi kahit maliit na piraso lang ng shrimp, fish food, or even yung live rocks lang mismo pwede na pang cycle. Marami kasing critters na mamamatay diyan na pwede naman maging source ng ammonia. Kapag masyado daw marami ang shrimp na pinang cycle mo mas madami kailangan pabulukin baka makabagal lang sa cycle, in the end, baka mahirapan ka lang mag-correct ng parameters.
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Re: help: Guide me please

Postby Red_D » Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:38 am

@Kalzwin - thanks boss. siguro it would be better if I cycle this naturally, antay na lang ako. may nag msg din sakin hindi sya nag lagay ng shrimp so tyaga tyaga na lang ako sa pagaantay.
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Re: help: Guide me please

Postby kalzwin » Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:41 am

Mas maigi nga antayin mo nalang siya mag cycle on its own. 'Di baleng matagal. Lahat naman dumadaan diyan eh, ang importante ginagawa mo ng tama. :P
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Re: help: Guide me please

Postby Red_D » Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:51 am

sige ganon na nga lang, mag eenjoy na lang ako kakatingin sa mga bato.

ung LR ba dpat ilawan, saka gano katagal dapat to ilawan sa isang araw? ung third question ko medyo matagal pa naman un :D
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Re: help: Guide me please

Postby kalzwin » Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:55 am

2. Need ba ng light ng LR? if yes, minimun ilang oras need ng ilaw? May nakita akong pink na parang flower sa LR ko, ill post pictures within the next days.

- Mag ilaw ka habang nagsa-cycle para kung sakali mabuhay naman yung coralline tsaka yung hitch hiker corals kung meron man. 6 hours pwede na yun.

3. Gusto ko maglagay ng mga LPS, pano ko malalaman na pwede na ako maglagay non? un ba dapat ko unahin ilagay o isda?

- Basta 0 Ammonia, 0 Nitrite, 0-20 Nitrate - mas maganda 0, pwede na mag-stock. Unahin mo yung clean-up crew like astraea and nassarius snails. Wala namang rule kung coral ba o isda ang mauuna. Ang importante slow lang pagdadagdag ng LS. Sa size ng tank mo maximum ng 3 small fishes lang like a pair of ocellaris clownfish and 1 shrimp goby.

HTH
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Re: help: Guide me please

Postby Red_D » Tue Feb 03, 2015 1:07 am

@Kalzwin - Salamat sa sagot, laking tulong nito sir. post ako progress ng tank ko. sa weekend kuha nko API master test kit para ma check ko na ung water parameters. :D
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Re: help: Guide me please

Postby kenn » Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:26 am

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Re: help: Guide me please

Postby Red_D » Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:28 pm

I read an article about putting fish to cycle the tank.



Prior to reading the article, someone sent me a PM na ganon ang ginawa nya so it seems to me pwede pala ganitong technique. Any comment mga guru?
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Re: help: Guide me please

Postby kalzwin » Tue Feb 03, 2015 3:30 pm

Never use live fish in cycling a tank. Kawawa lang ang isda, malalason sa ammonia. Siyempre merong mga fish na matibay like damsels na posibleng makasurvive during cycling, pero di mo gugustuhin mag alaga niyan pagtagal dahil sobrang aggresive nila at papatayin lang nila ang ibang isda na ilalagay mo. Antayin mo nalang matapos ang cycling.
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Re: help: Guide me please

Postby Red_D » Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:41 pm

@Kenn - thanks sa pag ID
@Kalzwin - ok, sa bagay kawawa naman ung isda. tyaga na lang ako sa pag antay

Additional question mga guru, need ko ba mag weekly 10% water change durng cycling or hayaan ko lang ung natural way na bumaba ung amonia at nitrite. mag 10% wate change lang ako pag nitrate na ung tumaas?
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Re: help: Guide me please

Postby kalzwin » Wed Feb 04, 2015 12:22 am

Saka nalang water change kapag ammonia and nitrite tests 0. Siya nga pala, 'di ako guru. Two years na tank ko pero wala pa din ako tank thread! HAHAHA! :D
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Re: help: Guide me please

Postby Red_D » Wed Feb 04, 2015 2:12 am

@Thank you Kalzwin

Can't wait to update the progress of my tank. sana successful ako sa project ko. Will get test kit sa weekend, hanap ako sa carti.
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Re: help: Guide me please

Postby Red_D » Sat Feb 07, 2015 2:26 am

went to carti this afternoon and bought a test kit. after day 5 of cycling here's what i got
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paki-correct po kung mali ako
1. kulang pa ako sa PH, reading ko nasa 8.0 lang
2. tama lang amonia level ko
3. tama lang nitrite level ko
4. mataas ang nitrate level ko at kailangan ko mag water change

pa advice po kung tama.

isa pa po, ung sa PH, pano po ba gagawin ko para ma achieve ko ung 8.2-8.4 na reading?
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Re: help: Guide me please

Postby kalzwin » Sat Feb 07, 2015 7:00 pm

Tataas din siguro ang PH kapag gumamit ka na ng magandang saltmix. Pero from what I've learned here, pointing the wavemaker up to agitate the water surface can help raise PH. In the meantime, you may use natural sea water habang pinapababa mo pa ang nitrate para tipid.
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